Why would God leave the wicked in power?

my thoughts after the election of 2012

 

Some would want to refer to President Obama and others as one of the radical world leaders.

There are some Christians that are literally distraught that Governor Romney did not get elected President.

I am not of that group.  I don’t see him this way at all.

Many Christians do. And have asked me “Why would God leave the wicked in power?”


I have learned many lessons based on who God raises up and brings down.


And remember God raises up and brings down leaders…not you.

Daniel 2:21 

“He changes the seasons and guides history, He raises up kings and also brings them down…”

THE MESSAGE

 

 

 How come God did not let Romney win?

How come Romney’s moral stand is better than Obama’s and God did not want Romney in?



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I think the Bible answers this question, whether we are speaking about Fidel Castro of Cuba, or it’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, Kim Jong of North Korea, Muammar al-Qaddafi of Libya, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela or Hu Jintao of China….and some are thinking that Barak Obama should be in this list.  I disagree.

 

I not only don’t think that.

I don’t even think that these men are the worst thing for Christianity in all of these other nations.

 

Some of you are thinking I have lost my mind.

 

 

Why would God leave the Philistines in power when so many times Israel had them in their grasp and could have annihilated them and pulled them out from their power position?

 

There is a reason that God left the Philistines in power in their region.  

God needed David alive.

 

To save David….even if it was only for one time.

The Philistines were part of the saga of David’s fugitive lifestyle while being hunted by Saul and God used the wicked for His purposes

 

Some how we have this thought that if someone becomes President that we vehemently disagree with or oppose that Christianity is doomed and it’s values.  We feel like God does not know what to do about His church.

 

I am telling you that it does not matter who is in office, the wicked are God’s puppets that do His bidding and His will.

 

I am in no way saying President Obama is wicked or on the level of other radical leaders of the world.  I am saying that many of President Obama’s decisions are anti Christian and have violated the clear Word of God. However, does that mean doom for Christianity….absolutely not….in fact, historically speaking, it strengthens the church.

 

 

*Let me explain the David story in detail….

 

When we think of the Philistines we usually think of one big guy, Goliath. But there is more to them and their part in the story of God.

Remember, God is ruler of all the planet. There is not a leader , nor a group of people that God does not have rulership over.  

 

Here is my question….

Why would God keep in power an ungodly, idolatrous, anti Jew nation like the Philistines when He could have them destroyed?

Because God has a plan and God can use anyone in His plan.

 

 

 

Here is the story I am referring to.

 

I Samuel 23:27

27 But a messenger came to Saul, saying, “Hurry and come, for the Philistines have made a raid on the land.”

 

 

 

God is amazing and orchestrates all events on our behalf

 

Saul and his men were surrounding David and getting ready to seize him….

And then Saul’s cell phone rings:

 

“Hurry and come for The Philistines have made a raid on the land”

 

And instead of David being caught , God used the Philistines wickedness to do His bidding and to save His servant.

 

All of His rescues can even be through the greed, pride and evil of wicked people and nations.

God can even use Iran to accomplish whatever He wants to do in the Middle East.

 

The Philistines coming into Israel was done because of sin.  What sin?  Their greed for more power. Their anti-Semitism.  Their thirst for control. Their pride that they are powerful. Their lust to rape the women.

Think of all the sins that went in to their raid on Israel. But their sin was David’s rescue that God orchestrated

 

 

 

26 Saul went on one side of the mountain, and David and his men on the other side of the mountain; and David was hurrying to get away from Saul, for Saul and his men were surrounding David and his men to seize them. 27 But a messenger came to Saul, saying, “Hurry and come, for the Philistines have made a raid on the land.” 28 So Saul returned from pursuing David and went to meet the Philistines; therefore they called that place the Rock of Escape. 29 David went up from there and stayed in the strongholds of Engedi.

 

 

 

 

 

Also, think of the early church.  The first century government was the worst and the most antagonistic government against Christianity in the history of the modern world and yet Christianity grew, stayed on fire BUT CHRISTIANS DIED.  We want red hot Christianity in America and in our cities BUT WITHOUT THE DYING PART.  I am of the school that believes that there can be danger to the Christian that thinks that a Christian president is the answer to the moral fibre of our nation.

Nothing could be further from the truth. See what happened when Church History switched from the persecuting emperors to a self proclaimed Christian emperor named Constantine.  The life of the church waned under him  but flourished under the persecution of the preceding emperors.

 

Don’t live under this fog that a Christian in leadership or a moral man in the oval office  is ALL that the church needs to get back on track.  

 

I know this is not popular but many times it’s the persecuting leader that gets the church back on track.  I’m not this guy that loves pain but I do love God and His church.

 

I am not going to and will never let an election determine my future and my attitudes.

 Barak Obama is my president. I am a Christian. And since I am a Christian I will pray for my President.  It’s not hard.  Think of the Scriptures that exhort us to do that in I Timothy 2:1-2 and think of who was in power at that time. This was not some Christian man who was supporting the church.  Nero was the emperor and was one of the worst persecutors of the early christians and we are told to pay him taxes in Romans 13 and pray for him in I Tim 2.  Come on Christians, think…the church flourished no matter who was in office.

 

 

 

Let me also let you muse over another thought.  I was amazed how many Christians knew prior to this election how diabolical and cultish Mormonism is but decided it’s okay for this election.   Even reputable ministries that I love and respect pulled it off their website cult watch.  Here is my question:  let’s assume that President Obama is ungodly in your mind……

 

 

Here is my question

 

WHO IS MORE DANGEROUS, THE UNGODLY OR THE CULT?  

 

In my mind, hands down, the cult.  I would much rather deal with someone who’s clear unbiblical stand is seen then to have Jesus and God talk all under the pretense of a cult.  Half truths about the Person of Jesus, the resurrection, the Trinity

, the inspired Word of God alone, is all rejected by Mormons but we were willing to make concessions in this election.  I think that there could be more danger in a Mormon than the ungodly if you think Obama is ungodly.  We are horrified that he covered a cross when he spoke at an event, and that he celebrated Ramadan instead of Christmas.  But no one seems to be offended that  Mormons believe….

 

  1. God came from another planet
  2. God is a man with a body of flesh and bones
  3. There is a mother goddess
  4. God and his goddess wife are married
  5. You can become gods

 

Honestly, I could deal with same sex marriage stand, no Christmas, covering the cross, and anti Christian rather then cultish thoughts about God and Jesus.

 

I will repeat it again.

Barak Obama is my President.

I am a Christian.

I will pray every day for my President because I am a Christian…..not a Republican, not a Democrat, not an ethnic + American person (Italian American for me)

 

 

When it’s all said and done, a story  of Lincoln and a pastor always come to mind.

When a pious minister told Lincoln he “hoped the Lord is on our side,” the president responded, “I am not at all concerned about that…. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord’s side.”

 

 

14 thoughts on “Why would God leave the wicked in power?”

  1. God is in control at all times, but that doesn’t mean that his will is done every time. It was not God’s will for Israel to have a king, but they did it anyway. Neither candidate was ideal, but when you judge their fruit one was clearly better than the other. I see no problem with lamenting the election of an evil man to be our country’s leader. Yes we will still pray for him, but I see no reason to celebrate the coming of more persecution.

  2. Thank you Pastor Tim for this, it is very sad to see many christian putting their hope on a man as if the future of te church depends on him. We all, with our personnal choice, affects our nation to pin this on one person is riddiculous. I was very disapointed that Mormonism was no longer considered a cult, as if we can modify God’s standard on some iSsues to mov His hand. Really? As the church we need to do better, God’s judgement and purification will start with the church at large before going through the nations because we are his representatives saved by the blood of His Son.

  3. See and I was worried about Mormons not believing in the trinity and the do it yourself aspects of the religion. I had no idea they believe all this other strange doctrine.

  4. Prefer to support a Mormon who ran a clean campaign and have policies and principles that support the Word of God than a so called Christian totally opposed my God and His Word. However Prophecy must be fulfilled and the gov. will not be effective I ghthat area. Zechariah 12:3. However I saw his desire for change and I will continue to pray for his salvation and thàt of his family’A and mr. Ryan and his family . We need a also need to pray for a revival in the Body befor we pray for S
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  5. What is more dangerous to have in a ruler? One that believes things about God that are clearly wrong and will enshrine immorality in legislative form or a belief that is clearly wrong but will enshrine biblical morality in law? I think Pres. Obama is more dangerous. He claims to be a Christian but is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. At least we know what we get with Mitt. Yes, Mormon beliefs are wrong and they are a cult, however, I think the church faces more danger from the lukewarm and confusing example of the president who claims to be a Christian but his fruits don’t show it. He is such a role model for people who want the Christian label but also want to sanction sodomy, abortion and a more intrusive government. Give me the Mormon any day. At least you know what you get.

  6. So you are not ok with a mormon leading the country who is pro life and pro marriage but you are ok with a man who claims christianity but follows the false doctrine of “Black Liberation Theology” is pro gay marriage and pro abortion.. the former is honest about who he is but the latter is an imposter.. respectfully.. this is nonsensical.

    1. With all due respect and love in Christ, it would be nice to know how much you know about Liberation Theology. I’m curious to know if you’ve ever read James Cone, Justo Gonzalez, or Gustavo Gutierrez? And not by reading Wikipedia’s take on it, or watching soundbites from MSNBC or FOX News about Jeremiah Wright and Father Pleger, but how familiar are YOU with liberation theology? It is very funny to see Christians politicize terms that they know nothing or very little about (liberation theology, socialism, etc)… I am not a liberation theologian and I don’t think that these things are intrinsically Christian, but I can appreciate their critique to Western Theology. It is important to note that while we categorize the Global South’s view of Christianity as ‘liberationist’, we are arrogantly assuming that we just have ‘theology in general’. I hope that you are not allowing your Americanistic virtues such as capitalism, reason (enlightenment thinking), individualistism, and consumerism guide your reading of the Scriptures. The Bible doesn’t look communist to me, but it sure doesn’t look capitalist. Liberation theology wants the Exodus narrative of ‘freedom’/ ‘liberation’ and God’s disposition to the poor and marginalized to guide its interpretation of Scripture. It wants to begin with who Jesus is- God incarnate as a first century poor Galilean. If you disregard liberation theology, then you disregard Servant of God Romero, Martin Luther King, Jr. and Saint Francis of Assisi (whose theology was not developed in such terms). While their Marxist leanings are critical points of disagreements that need to be challenged, liberation theologians believe in the Incarnation, the Trinity, and the essential dogmas of the Christian faith. Mormonism doesn’t hold to ANY of these essential dogmas. It has a warped and twisted view of The God of the Scriptures. Our lives imitate God best when we have a clearer view of who He is. God has revealed Himself to us through the Christian canon as it is, and the life that is most fully human is a life that looks to that Word to get a revelation of that God. I am a Christian before I am a Republican or Democrat or an American. If you are going to disregard Black Liberation Theology of Christianity further from Mormonism, then I am sad to say that you’ve gone astray. In Christian love, I plead with you to re-consider your position. Liberation theology does not approve of gay marriage or pro abortion. Please read a few of their books before you demean your brothers and sisters in Christ. Christians ought to repudiate the anti Christian stances on abortion and gay marriage, and make sure that Obama does not elect Supreme Court Justices who keep Roe v Wade from being reversed. In the meantime, let’s push our governors to make sure that christian policies are upheld and supported. We should be just as concerned about their stance on it since they are the ones who decide those issues. With all Christian love, I ask you to reconsider your uncharitable critique of liberation theologians and pray for all Mormons, Muslims, and nonbelievers to come to Christ.

      Yours in Christ for the love of the world,

      Matt

  7. Wow! Such God given wisdom. It is so true that the church prospers when persecuted, and tends to forget God during times of ease. Perhaps a revival is just around the corner!

    Since many of us didn’t get “our guy” into the White House, it’s time stop putting our hope in government, and getting back to our primary business…letting the world see Jesus through us.

    …and your point on the dangers of a cult is well-taken. We as Christians should be very careful who we make alliances with. The world is watching.

  8. I am praying for our nation, I agree with you that God uses leaders for his plans (wicked or righteous) however I would not look at the persecution of the early church and it’s thriving as a formula for a fiery church. God may use persecution for his purposes, but revival can come through repentance no matter what the season (prosperity or persecution). I would rather pray that God would help the church wake up before times of persecution, that we would do his will during prosperity and during persecution- this is the healing that we need. We need to be the church no matter what the season. I think that it is a bit ridiculous when pastors espouse, let persecution come (I am not saying that you are doing this Pastor Tim). I don’t think we realize what the early church went through, to wake up one morning and hear my parents were murdered because of persecution IS NOT EASY. If this comes then my prayer will be God help me to do your will in this season of persecution. However how much good can be done when a church is able to provide for others when it is not being persecuted, we simply need to ask God to help us be true Christians in the season we are in now, true Christians in the time of prosperity and true Christians in the times of persecution. I believe that if the church does not wake up, then God may use persecution to wake us up later, but this is not the desired path of God. No parent looks forward to disciplining their children, the parent simply has to for the sake of the child. Having said that, like what you wrote about praying for our President, I am alarmed at the direction that we are heading in as a country however I must not let my concerns cloud my mind or cause me to doubt the power of prayer. The king’s heart is like a stream of water directed by the LORD; he guides it wherever he pleases. (Prov. 21.1) Thank you for reminding me what I should never stop doing, praying for our president, no matter who it is.

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